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[2006-01-13] 木虚地 –『天涯杂谈』如果你是孙维的新婚丈夫,请听我说

Posted by woodinwind on January 13, 2006

这篇有趣的文章被很多人分析过。 

作者:木虚地 提交日期:2006-1-13 23:34:00

http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/Content/free/1/464333.shtml

  孙维沉默了十年,隐忍了十年,也痛苦了十年,为什么现在突然发表声明? 网友说了,是网络的力量;有的说,是天涯的影响;还有的说了,她要回国,要出来活动.这些都是天真的狗屁话.

有一个网友说了,申明都是说给她的新婚丈夫听的.该网友眼光很毒,猜透了人心.

我读了孙的声明,象很多网友一样,十分震撼,十分佩服.其行文之缜密,语气之冷静,用词之精准,反击之有力,是十年难得一见的好文,不仅反映了孙具有人民日报评论员的写作修养,更反映了她具有常人难见的高度智慧和极为特殊的心理素质.在这一点上,我从心底佩服她.

她是一个不同寻常的人.这样的一个案件,手段如此诡密,犯罪地点如此之显赫,被害人如此之集美貌智慧于一身,家庭背景如此之离奇,其近况如此之惨烈,每每听起,都让人不寒而栗,可称百年难见之奇案了.

孙维头顶着这样一个案件,在黑暗中度过了十年,如果她是凶手的话,漫漫长夜,最想的,就是被人遗忘.最怕的是,是被人提起.如果她不是
凶手的话,这么一个永远破不了,洗不清的案件,她最想的,还是被人遗忘.最怕的是,还是被人提起.

如果她依旧单身,如果她嫁给了一个不懂中文的外国人,她可以象以前那样,永远这样沉默下去.什么网络,什么网友,什么媒体,这些都是热几天的事儿,天涯的讨论,会象以前的每一次讨论一样,渐渐平息,被人遗忘.

可她终于无法沉默下去了.她现在结婚了,她有了一个懂中文的丈夫,她的丈夫看到了天涯的贴子.长夜中,他疑问,他恐惧,他怜悯,他痛苦.他怀着十万分复 杂的心理.颤栗中,拥抱着自己的新婚妻子, 轻轻地一败问:十年前,你毒杀过人吗? 这轻轻的询问,却象一声焦雷,击在孙维的心中.于是我们有了她石破天惊的声明.第一个声明,毕十年功于一箭,第二个声明中,我们却看到了一丝慌乱.一丝不 安,我们也看到了她身后新婚丈夫的一丝背影.

他也如果你是孙维的丈夫,请听我说:你的妻子是不是杀人凶手,只有天知,地知,凶手 知.但你的妻子是不是凶手,现在对你都不重要,重要的是,十年来她的表现,足以证明你娶了一个杰出的妻子!如果她是无辜的,我们看到的是她隐忍,宽容,大 度,娶了她,是你一生中最大幸运.我祝贺你! 她受了这么大的伤害,你要好好爱护她.如果她是凶手,她绝不会是你的威胁,相反,凭着她的严谨,冷静,智慧,她是你一生的保护.她也许后悔过,她日日祈求 主的宽恕,无数的匿名捐款人里,也许有她一个.十年里,也许她不放过任何一个做好事的机会,弥补她的过失.你要宽恕她.

这百年奇案,难有见得青天的一日.我们已经有了一个牺牲者朱令,在抓不着凶手的话,我们要千万小心不要再制造另一个牺牲者.

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[2006-01-13] jieluzhengxiang — 孙维的失策

Posted by woodinwind on January 13, 2006

http://www1.tianyablog.com/blogger/post_show.asp?idWriter=0&Key=0&BlogID=314431&PostID=3830644

  作者:jieluzhengxiang 提交日期:2006-01-13 22:35

孙维的失策
http://jieluzhengxiang.tianyablog.com 揭露真相

孙维作为本案的最大嫌疑人或者凶手,在事情的处理上犯了极其幼稚的错误。
自发声明PK贝志诚是孙维的第一个失策。当贝志诚等人在网上开始发贴职责他是凶手时候,她应该保持沉默,因为那样可能事情还不会像现在一样不可收拾。孙 维最大的失误是发表了一个所谓的清白声明。而这个声明漏洞百出,让人觉得此地无银。一石激起千层浪,大多数人正式因为孙维的声明而将这件事情越搞越大!孙 维的辩解,换来的不是息事宁人,而是更多人的愤怒。对于孙维而言,她因此失了民心。
苦肉计PK清华大学是孙维的第二个失策。在第一个声明中, 孙维将矛头指向清华大学,指责学校无端不给毕业证书,希望用苦肉计证明她也是受害者。这个举动,无疑是将清华大学的领导变成了自己的对立面。也许,当初学 校面临压力,让大多数学生保持沉默,帮助了你。而你今天“恩将仇报”,出卖了清华。那么,孙维无疑是让自己断送了让清华大学某些领导继续帮助她遮掩事实的 出路。换一个角度说,假设孙维真的是受害人,是无辜的,她现在出来指控清华,如果真的是清华有过错。那么,我请问大家,如果孙维和清华打官司,谁的势力更 大?在权利的平衡当中,某些领导会选择清华而不是孙维。毕竟,一个高干子弟和一个百年名校的名誉相比就不算什么了。同时,孙维不要忘记我们国家有多少领导 人是清华大学毕业的?他们是给你家人面子,还是给他们母校面子呢?所以孙维狗急跳墙将责任推给清华,是一个相当愚蠢的行为。
窦娥冤PK公安司 法机构是孙维的第三个失策。第一个声明中,矛头指向公安机关,无端搞出窃听器事件,这样做不但没有博取到同情,反而,让窃听器事件的漏洞百出。虽然,孙在 后来对公安部门道歉,但是,亡羊补牢,为时已晚!孙维PK公安局,转移视线的目的完全没有达到,同时,她也让当年照顾她的公安机关心寒啊!也许,当时的负 责人卖了孙家一个面子,放了孙维一马,但当他们看到孙现在为了保全自己,将责任推给他们,他们恐怕不愿意再给孙家面子了。加入,这个案子重审,那么我请问 孙,你的家人再去帮你和警察叔叔走关系,他们会帮你吗?帮了你,你可能反咬一口。
由此,我们是不是可以看出,现在的孙维已经失道寡助了?失了民心,断了自己的后路。孙维,看来你还不够聪明,你天天在部长楼里看别人玩政治,可是你学的不够精,你还不会玩!

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[2006-01-13] China Daily — Lab poisoning mystery triggers debate

Posted by woodinwind on January 13, 2006

中国日报的报道

Zhu Ling as a college student in Tsinghua University in 1995.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2006-01/13/content_512136.htm

Lab poisoning mystery triggers debate
By Jessie Tao (chinadaily.com.cn)
Updated: 2006-01-13 17:37

Zhu Ling as a college student in Tsinghua University in 1995.

A mysterious poisoning case that happened 11 years ago in Tsinghua University has once again drawn attention of visitors to the Tianya club, one of the most visited online BBS in China.

Discussions have increased after the NO.1 suspect involved in a student’s death recently issued a statement of innocence for the first time after keeping silent for years.

Back in 1995, Zhu Ling was a sweet and smart chemistry student in the prestigious Tsinghua University. But she fell into a devastating state due to thallium poisoning. She is now fully paralyzed and has lost almost all the eyesight and language ability.

Discussion and speculation have never stopped on whether someone attempted to murder her through thallium poisoning, although the police have yet to give a definite answer.

One of Zhu Ling’s roommates, Sun Wei (alias), has been deemed the No. 1 suspect by Zhu’s parents.

“The university told us Sun was doing a research with a professor at that time. Thus she was the only student who might have access to the deadly heavy metal of thallium” said Zhu’s mother.

Eleven years later, Zhu Ling’s classmates, who have been collecting money for Zhu Ling’s treatment, again called for caring for the unfortunate woman, with the launch of a thread titled “Tsinghua girl poisoned ten years ago” in Tianya.

A netizen named Skyoneline wrote in the thread:

“…Smart, beautiful, and elegant, Zhu Ling was perfect in most people’s eyes. But a weird poisoning incident changed everything. In December of 1994, she suffered from a serious illness — heavy hair loss, paralyzed face, inarticulate, and weak limbs. None of the specialists in Peking Union Medical College Hospital (PUMCH) could identify the cause, therefore, treatment was delayed.”
“Zhu’s high school classmate — Bei Zhicheng — made public Zhu’s symptoms on the Internet and appealed for help. Within a short time, he received over 1,500 replies, 30% of which thought it was thallium poisoning. But nobody at PUMCH looked at his materials, as the doctors had excluded the possibility of heavy metal poisoning. When the diagnosis of thallium poisoning finally came out, thallium had ruined most parts of her nervous system. She suffered serious sequelae (complications of a condition), even though by then thallium was clearly out of her body,” said Skyoneline.

Skyoneline went on to say in her thread, “Sun Wei was Zhu Ling’ classmate, roommate, and teammate on the college folk music team. According to some Tsinghua students, Sun was doing a research with her professor at that time, and was the only student that had access to thallium. Besides, due to her close relationship with Zhu, she had the best chance and time to poison Zhu. …Some well-informed classmates of Zhu Ling even point out that Sun Wei was the would-be poisoner…”

“Also according to Zhu’s Tsinghua classmates, Sun was denied the Certificate of Graduation without an official reason, and also was refused any materials for going abroad.” Skyoneline continued.

Skyoneline ‘s thread received abundant replies, most of which showed deep sympathy for Zhu, while accusing Sun of being the poisoner.

A month later a statement allegedly written by Sun Wei emerged in the Tianya club, refuting the illdoings and claiming Sun’s innocence

“Many people are helping Zhu Ling and demanding due punishment of the murderer. Rumors about me have been spreading all the time, but I retained my silence all the years. As I always believed my innocence would be proven one day. However, my silence has given people reason to doubt. Even my friends are asking me about the case. Therefore, I have decided to issue a statement of innocence here.” the statement read.

“I am innocent, and also a victim of the case,” claimed the statement.

According to the statement, the police questioned Sun Wei for eight hours on April 2, 1995, and cleared her of suspicion in August the same year, as there was no evidence pointing to her involvement in Zhu’s poisoning.
“The fact is the thallium liquid I used was prepared by others. What’s more, there was no strict management on poisonous reagent. Sometimes, the laboratory was even left unlocked,” Sun wrote in her statement.

Reaction to the statement is mixed.

Some expressed doubt on Sun’s statement.

A netizen nicknamed Yanshanqiandu2 believed Sun was exactly the guilty person who was trying to cover up her wrongdoings. “Why did you choose to keep silent ten years ago,” questioned Yanshanqiandu2.

A reply by Qipilaolang said: “Suspicion does not amount to your guilt, nor does the clearing statement warrant your innocence.”

Meanwhile, Sun also drew sympathy. “I support you, innocent Sun Wei. Both you and Zhu Ling are victims, and worthy of sympathy. Wish your and your family could live a peaceful life again. Wish Zhu Ling a quick recovery, and her family peace and happiness!” wrote a netizen nicknamed Onisdabird.
Zhu’s high school classmate Bei Zhicheng, who has been involved in the case since the very beginning, also launched a thread on the “Information on the Zhu Ling Case.”

“The first time I had my suspicion on Sun Wei was in 2002, and had never discussed it on the Internet, because it was not a pleasant memory. It is not my assumption. In fact, I got to know Sun Wei only because she was the only suspect revealed by the police to Zhu Ling’s parents. The police’s suspicion was based on facts presented by Tsinghua University: Sun Wei was the only student with access to thallium, and Zhu Ling’s back-up on the Folk Music Team,” Bei wrote in his thread.

Bei also listed the facts he got to know through different sources,

“According to a retired officer with the Beijing Municipal Police Station, Zhu Ling’s cup was found in a box under Sun Wei’ bed. ”

“The other thing I want to mention is the apathy shown by Zhu Ling’s classmates. Nobody offered a hand when I asked them for help in translating the emails on Zhu Ling’s illness we got from the foreign experts. ”

Bei also said Tsinghua University should bear the most responsibility for both Zhu Ling’s poisoning and the failure to find out the culprit.

A claimed classmate of Sun Wei replied:”Personally, I think Sun Wei is the most likely poisoner. Several of her supporters were her close friends, and not on good terms with Zhu Ling. Why is there nobody suggesting collective action? Why did some people keep the same stance and tone?”

Discussion is still going on, while the truth behind Zhu’s poisoning remains elusive. Nevertheless, reality is that Zhu’s health is deteriorating day by day and her family has been dragged into a plight due to the massive medical expense.

“We have to leave her one day. How can she, paralyzed in bed, continue her life without us?” Zhu’s mother sobbed.

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[2006-01-13] 孙维的再次声明 — 要求重新侦查,为“窃听器”错误向网友和公安道歉

Posted by woodinwind on January 13, 2006

http://www13.tianya.cn/publicforum/Content/free/1/459927.shtml

『天涯杂谈』 声明:要求重新侦查,为“窃听器”错误向网友和公安道歉

作者:孙维声明 提交日期:2006-1-13 12:50:00

一、就“窃听器”的错误向网友和公安道歉。

在 “孙维的声明”中我把一对音乐杯误当成了窃听器。多年来我和家人一直确信无疑,因为它们确实从未响过。发贴前还特意把这保留多年的“窃听器”拍照上传。经多位网友指出后,我们找了三位真正懂行的专业人员,证明确实是音乐杯。所以我再次发表声明,在相同的场合向大家特别是公安机关道歉,消除不良影响。

二、我已向公安机关提出重新侦查的请求

在我的声明发出之后,很多网友认真分析案情,提出了一些非常有价值的线索,对本案的侦破可能会有很大帮助。我认为尽管朱令中毒距今已隔十年,但如果广泛调查、发动群众、认真回忆并查找一些相关记录和资料,不是没有实现突破的可能。其实,除了朱令家人,没有人比我更希望破案了。

因此,我已委托家人于2006年1月9日向公安机关正式提交书面申请,强烈要求公安机关采取透明办案方式重新侦查朱令中毒案件,查明真相,给朱令家人一个交代、还我清白!

另外,我在申请中再次向公安机关提出了对我进行测谎的要求。

三.关于谣言

在我发表声明之后,天涯论坛中又不断出现了很多新的谣言。因为以前我从未听说过,自然不可能在上次的声明中提到,例如“孙维天天给朱令喝咖啡”、“在孙维床下的箱子里找到彻底清洗过的咖啡杯子,孙维的解释是朱令一直不在怕杯子脏了,所以就给洗了,然后怕落灰所以放到自己箱子里保管”、“清华传言朱令中毒是因为他爸爸走私铊,不小心沾染的。同时,我补充一点,谣言的来源最后查到了,确定为孙维所为”、“孙维声称公安仅在97年询问过她一次,这也是撒谎。不说派出所和学校保卫部,据我所知,市公安局在95年开始就传唤过她很多次”、“经公安部调查,在做了大量工作后,孙维本人承认了她实施了对朱令下毒— -”等等。

刚看到这些荒谬谣言的时候我无比愤怒,在这样一个人命关天的事情上竟能造出如此恶毒的谣言!但这些天的情况让我彻底明白了,除了好事者外,有人在专门生产谣言!因此谣言是永远驳不完的。要想彻底解决问题,唯一的办法是公安重新侦察,查明真相,在这一点上大家的目的是一致的。

最后,向所有能够冷静客观地看待、分析问题的网友表示真心的感谢!同时,还要感谢花费大量时间精力查阅相关信息,并进行归纳整理分析的热心网友。也有一些网友给我发送信息对我表示支持和理解,请原谅我没有及时一一回复。另外,我的很多朋友从媒体上看到对此事的报道后,纷纷打电话慰问、支持和鼓励我,使我非常感动,在此向他们表示谢意!

期待着真相大白于天下的那一天!

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[2006-01-13] 我是朱令的同学 — 原来非我

Posted by woodinwind on January 13, 2006

http://www13.tianya.cn/publicforum/Content/free/1/459682.shtml
作者:原来非我 提交日期:2006-1-13 6:14:00
我是物化二的,来说几句:
1.物化2是权势中心操纵一切的班,普通同学不知情,有什么事情问出来证明的同学,
他们是知情人,和其他同学没有关系。
2.”孙维的同学”说集体行动,意思应该是集体知情或者集体参与。认为投毒的目的可能不是杀人。
3.感谢帮助过朱令的所有人,物化2班普通同学确实没有帮助朱令什么。班干部帮没帮要问他们。
4.网络和媒体,不要做破案专家,无根据的分析案情,相信北京公安局有是一定的能力的,不负责任的发表言论和
判断只能给朱令帮倒忙。最后让凶手逍遥法外,希望媒体和个人能相信公安,相信党。
个人非常相信十四处的能力,破案过程主要证据并没有公开,个人认为这不是个复杂的案子,十四处应该早有结论。
证明二次投毒不是一个医生就可以下结论的,公安部应该有很多毒品专家。如果嫌疑人能证明不是二次投毒
凭她家的地位应该早就请人证明了,这是证明她清白的关键,不会等到十年后才来论证
5.嫌疑人应该没有出国.不知道他们演的是那出戏,十年前是一团迷雾,十年后还是一团迷雾,孙同学完全有能力让公安破案,
追查真凶,何苦到网上来影响别的不知情的同学的正常生活。希望你们几个饶了大家,去公安局要求破案和控告诽谤的人。
6希望权力中心出来做个声明,这一切和普通同学没有关系,你们当年为什么向同学遮掩事实,也算你们良心发现.

邱老六你不用来证明身份了,不要跟2,4淌浑水,只有他们才知道真相是什么。好事坏事还是请他们包了吧。荣辱也属于他们。
审判前不会再来,本人的命还比几百块值.

作者:原来非我 回复日期:2006-1-13 6:25:11

我是替朋友发贴,因为朋友不方便,让我代贴.谢谢大家.

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